Unforgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. What was it like in my Patriarchal home, you ask? Because Mark does not like them, people having this vision for their life should go to their jail? My mother ruled the house and henpecked my father. We have been together since I was 15. Is it a Sin for a Christian Not to Live a HealthyLifestyle. This is your warning. You are a very dogmatic person. How are you doing now? Im thinking about creating one.. Im absolutely confused, from reading these testimonials and some of these comments I dont know of you are serious. Or were they connected with teachings similar to an article I wrote, Wife Undermines Her Husbands Authority in Front of Children, He DisciplinesHer? Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. He is the boss. Didnt the APA decide homosexuality is just fine? As a man and a Christian myself, I think all Christians need to listen to these stories. As a Christian, Im not trying to nullify the Bible by my experiences, or anyone elses. But often I would struggle or try to escape but he was big and strong enough to hold me in place and then would tell me I was getting more for disobeying and struggling. Jamin wanted me to take a look at his finger nails because he was said his finger nails were too short to leave any marks. The woman you are concerned about is indeed at very high risk. Oh brother, that was too obvious. And the part of the body does not change it from abuse to discipline if you were to grab a stranger and hit him on the bottom, youd be up for assault charges. Until I moved out, both her and my father spanked me, although he did most of it. Jennas Punishment Spanking (Christian Domestic Discipline Marriage #1) During a disagreement, Jenna storms out of the house without telling her husband where she's going. Me. 10 Things Every Christian Husband MustUnlearn, Give Your Husband the Gift He Actually Wants forChristmas. No wife who has ever been spanked by her husband submitted out of fear? Well, even if it should turn out that punishment is proportional to the evil committed, and must eventually end for all, I am convinced that you will ultimately be satisfied with the consequences your abusers must surely suffer. [redacted] said in a counseling session Jamin has admitted to using anger as a teaching tool for [redacted] like you would train a dog. Lauren and I exchangede-mails (edited slightly for brevity) and Lauren gave me permission to share with you our conversation,in the hopes that it will help other wives and also shed light on this dark secret in Christianity: BRAVO for you!! Church youth group leaders would tell young ladies that modest is hottest and make it clear that exposing any kind of skin somehow made a woman loose or of a certain kind. My parents had total veto power over what I could wear. Because my Jack is taking the lead. I write about marital discipline in a Christian home at my website spankingyourwife.wordpress.com. What kinds of reactions can he expect from his wife as he introduces this into his marriage and how should he respond to his wifes reactions? _50 SHADES OF GREY AND PATRIARCHY: WHAT EXACTLY DID WE EXPECT?_. Dad took off my slacks and panties and handed the strap to my husband. So what you hear from a survivor in one State or one County or one Country, may not necessarily apply in your friends case. You think you are just but you are what the Bible calls a mocker., 1 Kings 18:27: It came about at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, Call out with a loud voice, for he is a god; either he is occupied or gone aside, or is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and needs to be awakened., No one is tricked or trapped into that, even if you seem to have the concerning desire to save people from themselves because it just cant be right.. Thank you, Serving. But when you seriously contend that there mere fact that our Lord appeared first to women and told them to tell the men negates the creation ordinance, Deborahs curse of wimpy Barak and the clear words of the Holy Spirit on this subject through the Apostle Paul, then I suggest you have really lost touch with the will of God. Hes not a victim, hes a kinky dude with odd underwear. Rather he actually comes abusing by accusing. The stresses that can wreck marriages and the men/women Mars/Venus things just seems to go away. Cooler heads prevail and your words are so helpful, not just for A Lone Voice, but to anyone else who may stumble across this old thread. Did you tell him why you were leaving? But unlike the "Cry U.S.E." ever. Send in your testimonials! No wonder Lauren was so confused in her marriage. Have they been able to escape and at what cost? Thats a rule for ancient Israel, for young women still living at home with their fathers. Lets treat adults like adult and lets avoid the temptation of playing the role of God. I do not want a world in which wife beating makes a come back with rage because people have had enough of having ideology inconsistent with human nature pushed down their throat. It took such a long time because that line had been blurred from growing up and then being married. @Mark You are convinced that a woman can only be tricked into that kind of relationship, and you have decided to be quite closed minded with this regard to the extent that you think that people who think otherwise are sick. Many people even literally proceed in the manner I have just described. I never truly fought back as if I was fighting for my life. Take heed then to your spirit, and let no one deal treacherously against the wife of your youth., I think youd be surprised at how educated these people are. Bike Bubba None of the firearms are locked up. Here is the link: https://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2016/06/30/wife-asks-for-input-regarding-her-husband-who-paddles-her/. But to broaden that out and say that no woman should ever be spanked tramples on individual conscience. For where does it end ? I know for a long time I did not consider myself a battered or abused wife. I didnt see it as abuse. What I can however say is that what you describe isnt generally speaking the spirit of domestic discipline. Most jobs that could provide a living were male occupations. His wife helps with the teaching too. 1986). Here are some tidbits of the arrest report: [redacted] told me Jamin has a couple of different hunting rifles, a couple of shot guns, a Glock pistol and another silver pistol. Do you have any children? What does that actually mean? It should be private. Wife Spanking, Christian Domestic Discipline, Domestic Violence *** You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered. We have now been happily married for over 30 years and I have learned how to obey my husband and do my chores. Christianity is about inspiring free hearts, not forcing them with laws. Part of me wishes this practice of wife spanking waslimited to just one denomination so it could be easierto expose, but it is clear from the above examples that we cannot. My husband and I would be considered rather boring by most people. General: Dont like scripture when it disagrees with your prejudices, you guys, do you? Women werent squelched when they were told to TELL MEN that Jesus had resurrected. . Good intentions yield more good intentions. Seriously, Lone, as our gracious hostess notes, there are many disagreements on this site, which is why this thread has over 100 comments. I was able to find the two snippets from the show below: The husband in the article (and Dr. Phils show)also claimed to be a Christian (non-denominational background). He is giving me enough leeway so I am not really stressed about it, and since our test spank, I know what Im in for if I fail. All you have to do is go along with it. Kirsten,indebtedmom.com, 2. Would Jesus (bad word) the church against the churches will? Even interpreting the Bible in an incorrect way as you do to read authority into the Bible, your view only addresses married mothers, and is not applicable or workable for never-married women, widows, the infertile, the childfree or the divorced. You can get in my face and scream it, and it still wont be a proof. It really is that good. I personally do not support enforcing religious views by law because I believe in God-given freewill. The only time the word authority is used in conjunction of marriage in the New Testament is when the New Testament states that wives have authority over their husbands body. Yet you call yourself a child. christian domestic discipline A History of the Corporal Discipline of Women January 11, 2023 In this third and final part of my three-part series on Christian Domestic Discipline, we explore how the practice of domestic discipline continue through the middle-ages and even into America up until the mid-20th century. Did you even read the post? I shall expect some racist comments. In the Garden, the serpent went over the woman, she went over her husband, and he went over God. I looked at Jamins left hand and his index finger nail was long enough to make the mark I saw on the right side of [redacted] neck. Deborah cursed Barak for not taking his proper male role, and the Apostle Paul, knowing all about Junia, still says a woman may not usurp authority over a man. My husband is in seminary to be a music minister and I noticed that he doesnt spank me like he used to. Well, actually, to pray for abused women, even though we do not know who they are, is to accomplish much. Michael is worried sick over his wife's whereabouts, and he's determined to put a stop to her irresponsible behavior. It took a long time for me to have the strength to leave him. For example: Evil men do not understand justice, But those who seek the LORD understand all things. If Satan can keep you in the past, he will rob you of your future. I wasnt mad at my husband I knew I earned my punishment. Lets discusshymens. But the Pastor wouldnt agree with her that her husband was being too strict. No this is not like the playground bully. Christian Domestic Discipline, wife spanking, Christian Patriarchy Movement, Spanking of Adult Children, Denominational Practices and teachings Two summers ago, I received a phone call from a pastor who shared his growing concern about wife-spanking in his family of churches. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. This is a tool among others, people do not hit as a substitute for talking unlike what you suggest. We need to consider the importance of thecorrelation of. Instead of, you know, just talking to each other. [redacted] never told the investigating deputy the truth about what was going on that night because Jamin told her they would both be arrested, and law enforcement would take their children away. For, right now most people in this thread seem to be in a bubble of self-righteousness that tends to look ridiculous from the outside, especially when the scientists obviously know nothing about the object of their analysis. Anger is not sin, although we can sin in our anger. But intolerance is intolerance, and here you are intolerant against religious freedom. WebJennas Punishment Spanking (Christian Domestic Discipline Marriage #1) During a disagreement, Jenna storms out of the house without telling her husband where she's going. However be prepared because I do no think this movement is going anywhere. How does a Christian man go about introducing Domestic Discipline into his marriage and what techniques actually work? What a heartless bunch. Im about the only one here who actually quotes scripture. Daisy, just where in the Gospels did Christ say, I say Genesis 3:16 is not to be followed any more? You write as though no woman in the Bible had any learning. As a strong-willed person, I see submission as a form of feminine chivalry. In addition, they were ostracized by the faith community which was one of the few means of assistance for the poor. Wait? I agree with you also but I dont agree on what some people say about pastors Spanking other peoples wives and brothers Spanking their sisters and son spanking their mothers I mean that just Blows my mind away right there I think if its between a husband and his wife only then whatever floats their boat more power to them, Ruth, how old are you? It seems like my husbands leadership skills have developed so strongly. Retha I missed Dark Childs comment. WebJennas Punishment Spanking (Christian Domestic Discipline Marriage #1) During a disagreement, Jenna storms out of the house without telling her husband where she's going. In, the language of our marriage, in referring to this lifestyle choice, I tell my husand that I love being his baby. Most of the time, my husband is like, Sure, baby. I woke up in a horrible mood and from the beginning I was very disrespectful to my husband. 1 Peter 3:7. It contains articles on spanking in marriage, as well as advice on leading the home. It never occurred to me to suppose that 100pinkapples might not be a Christian. If you are currently living (or have lived) the Christian Domestic Discipline lifestyle and you would like to share how it has helped your marriage or relationship, please email your story and mention that you wish to share your experiences with other people. It seems that both of these components make it much more likely for a woman to be the victim of domestic violence/wife spanking. Send in your testimonials! Personal attacks are not. Its the word of God: After a while I learned that this was really Gods plan for the household and wanted it for myself when I was married. The whole verse says: 1Cor 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. And it goes on: 1Cor 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. Finally, Daisy be more Christ-like; keep your nose out of my bedroom.. Its one thing when it is a Ray Rice situation like in the news now. As a matter of fact, I get yelled at on occasion by homosexual marriage supporters on other sites for politely stating I disagree with how homosexual marriage supporters bully those they disagree with over the homosexual marriage topic.). I would love to know what demonization that church is. And I also do not agree with her getting spanked in front of others. It is insidious that this practice has continued in the name of God and Christianity. DavidA That is the irony. For instance, those who practice domestic discipline often cite scripture that calls for wives to submit to their husbands. As a society have always restricted what two consenting adults can do. Its quite amazing that she had the strength to leave. Junia was a female apostle who taught men. Just chalk it up to your personal preference and call it a day. Daisy, thank you for your usual good work in countering those who, like the satan, abuse and twist Scripturein the present case to justify the abuse of women. Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. I felt really sorry for the lady who got punished but I can tell you that she has learned her lesson and at Bible study she listens to our minister now. But just like a chocolate addict will eat carob in moments of dire necessity. Pompous nothing, but nothing. Such as, not seeing them alone, only meeting in public, and if you need overnight accommodations to see them, NEVER stay at their place or let them stay at yours. Oh, stop the press! Which only shows exactly where your heart and mind are at. He told me I was never to wear such slutty clothing and made me throw them all away (after beating my bottom). You said, I could never respect any god that would put such sick, stupid, selfish, sexually sadistic men in those positions. I have already done that in my previous posts like The Biblical Case for Domestic Discipline. Please go and speak to a pastor in a completely different church from the one they were in (I should recommend a sister in a Pentecostal church, but thats just my personal suggestion). I found an old post of yours from last year. If you are currently living (or have lived) the Christian Domestic Discipline lifestyle and you would like to share how it has helped your marriage or relationship, please email your story and mention that you wish to share your experiences with other people. Ben and I were miserable and the pastor at his church was no help, so we went to the pastor of my old church and he and his wife were very helpful in instructing us in proper CDD. :o). I wanted to know how did Lauren get from the point where wife spanking was considered normal to the place where she said, THIS IS WRONG it is ABUSE!. The truth is, the abuse labelling has less to do with the fact itself than with your opinion on the matter and your decision to condemn it and declare it morally unacceptable. Homos are gettin married. They took all her her clothes off in front of everybody and then she got a spanking by the Pastor and her husband with their belts. Even without saying the word spanking, it would be easy for a husband sitting in a pew to take that kind of teaching and think that a pastor was giving his stamp of approval for wife spanking to get her under control. I wished people like you existed since the beginning of times so the world would be a much better place even though apart from labelling people victims and abusers, your general philosophies do not do much to help relationships work as is evidenced by the disfunctional state of marriages today that have become a mess just at the same period your ideological ideals started to become turned into laws. I dont know if my Mom was ever spanked. You get all edgy. I got spanked as a child and so did my brother and we turned out great! In the beginning I would test him all the time to see if he was serious. So, it is meekness, it is not weakness. Not to mention any basic understanding of Ezer Kenegdo where most of it starts concerning this issue. I submit that every target of physically, emotionally or spiritually abusive behavior is our sister or brother, and that no perpetrator, absent real repentance, is to be embraced as family. And no, the experiences, however bad, do not nullify the word of God. Careful, Julie Anne, true alpha females dont go over the top. I dont think a Husband has the right to ask his wife to sin.But we are not given the wisdom God gives our husband they are superior to us, we are inferior my Minister teaches us this in our Wives and young girls Bible class Bible class. How does a husband exert authority over a woman? No woman wants to be slapped around, and certainly not because it has anything to do with not being able to find a macho man to date. Men ruling over women was a result of the fall, of sin entering humanity it was never Gods intent. Dont just believe what an individual survivor tells you: though survivors have much wisdom based on their own experiences, their own experiences may not be generalisable to others completely, and this applies ESPECIALLY in regards to legal options. Comfortable, but very childish, very full coverage stuff. It isnt normal for another man to spank your naked body, your husband allowed this to happen I cant believe that thats true. Now no one complains to the Pastor at Bible school anymore I can tell you. Because of his behavior with no rage, just an expectancy of needing to control you, it makes me think this was normal within his background or upbringing. I dont know what to do?!? christian domestic discipline A History of the Corporal Discipline of Women January 11, 2023 In this third and final part of my three-part series on Christian Domestic Discipline, we explore how the practice of domestic discipline continue through the middle-ages and even into America up until the mid-20th century. A friend of mine from work saw how down I was. And yet. If every Pastor was like the one Susie writes about , the one who taught her husband how to be a good leader, there would be far fewer broken homes. We were soon an item and when marriage started to be a clear part of our future, I nervously brought up the subject of CDD. They shift shame, fault and blame to the one who has been wronged. Check, good to go! Our church pastor growing up would talk about disciplining according to emotional age, not actual age. Thankfully my friend helped me move and helped me get set up and even helped me secure a job. We had many problems. He just put his belt back on and left the room with the door open. Other times, I will be simply told that there is a new rule or that I am forbidden to do something. I think nobody bothered to really answer because your self-proclaimed moral superiority, and arrogant psychiatric doctor tone make you guys look close-minded and beyond hope. Soooo he is a modern psychologist? But having said all that, you have something practical, but difficult, which you must do. Say for example, they are asked to bring another into the relationship/marriage bed, or commit a crime, because I have heard that from women. God made us women to serve and obey our husbands because he knows they needed help mates. But that pastor I am speaking about, if she is worth her salt, will speak better words than me. So without knowing it, the type of extreme feminism you promote is currently working toward its own destruction. Time to go. Here is my question to you: are you implying that the woman is a victim even if this situation and cannot truly consent? Dont you think a woman like that has no theology to support her and is outside the will of God? a forensic psychologist who evaluates and treats sexual psychopaths and is the author of a book on abuse. And then after that we will spend several articles looking at cultural views of domestic discipline in America before the modern age. Yes, that makes a lot of sense it was a normal progression for you. Rock showed the stars and you looked at the finger.

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