["pinged"]=> ["post_modified"]=> No issues, one of the softest shooting .308s I've tried. Am I locked into the dictator because of some proprietary specs or can I use the .750 slr agb that I have in spare parts? Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. It is light and handy, easy to customize, very accurate and performs well in the field. ["ID"]=> string(19) "2023-01-02 05:00:02" ["ping_status"]=> Complete modularity achieved by the Renegade Rail System. ["ping_status"]=> ["post_type"]=> Give a Gift } ["comment_count"]=> During the years since its release, the company has continued to refine the platform, first by adapting the piston-driven Revolution into the direct-impingement Revolution DI, and now by offering the Rogue, a rifle that POF views as a dedicated hunting variant of the concept. Do You Need a 9mm? string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=128147" ["post_mime_type"]=> ["post_status"]=> string(11) "phoenix-9mm" A new addition to the Honey Badger line is a 115 grain 10 mm round. Anyone tried one of these? I had a Rev in 308 pistol configuration. Our mil-spec aluminumanti-tilt buffer tubefeatures carrier cradle extensions to ensure that the carrier is always supported by the buffer tube even when the bolt carrier is fully forward. I am not an operator nor am I very smart. So, this design isnt an AR-10, nor is it a small frame design like the Colt 901 which others copied years later. I want a do all rifle that can be used in pretty much any roll, a jack of all trades sort of deal. string(7) "firearm" int(0) This particular Rogue isnt as accurate as the Revolution I previously tested, but I really like it. I used Magpul magazines and the rifle ran without issue. ["post_status"]=> Dr. Dabbs tells us all about the weapons used in the his personal favorite war movie, Kelly's Heroes. string(0) "" rogue-sbrobject(WP_Post)#7946 (24) { string(19) "2022-08-03 16:29:50" ["post_title"]=> The Rogue sports POF-USAs single-stage drop-in trigger, which is designed to break at 4.5 pounds. From their website - Complete modularity achieved by the Renegade Forend. Australian Outbacks 150-grain Swift Scirocco II BTS load also averaged 2.3 inches and Winchesters 120-grain PDX1 Defender came in at 2.5 inches. POF touts its Modular Railed Receiver (M.R.R) as crucial for accuracy. Three quick hits and I switched to the LaRue at 500 yards. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. I only know one person with a POF 308 and they had a lot of issues with it. ["post_excerpt"]=> string(17) "Renegade Plus SBR" A 1913 Picatinny rail is machined in at 12 oclock, allowing easy mounting of a front BUIS or various accessories. ["post_modified"]=> ["to_ping"]=> I have an EA LUX .308 can in jail that I am thinking will go on the Rogue to yield a good lightweight large frame for anticipated low-volume/rate use cases. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. They're known in the industry as one of the biggest quality manufacturers of lowers and uppers for other AR makers. I'll just ditto everything IndianaBoy said. When a cartridge is fired they allow a small amount of gas pressure to flow backward and push on the shoulder of the spent casing. string(0) "" ["post_password"]=> Not gonna knock how beautiful your rifle looks, because it looks flawless. ["post_author"]=> ["filter"]=> An adjustable gas block and heavy buffer mostly fixes the reliability issues. I dont know why. Well how much does it take to get a good rifle? ["post_author"]=> Patriot Ordnance Factory 01662 Rogue Direct Impingement 308 Win,7.62x51mm NATO 16.50' 20+1 Black Anodized 6 Position MFT Stock. ["post_date_gmt"]=> string(0) "" You get a number of improvements with the Revolution and quality control seems to be far better. The Headrest Safe is the ultimate in discreet storage for your valuables (gun, money, credit cards, jewelry, medicines). string(13) "tombstone-9mm" I have seen the bad reviews and that is honestly the biggest reason to consider the sig. ["post_excerpt"]=> I wouldnt mind selling a couple of DPMS LR308s and get one POF. Accuracy is excellent with 150 grain Hornady Interlock and 168 Sierra Match (about 1moa for each) - I'll try other cartridges in the future.. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. While our test sample did turn out to weigh a bit more than the sub-6-lb. string(0) "" This free upgrade will be installed in all Rogue models, including the 12.5" barrel pistol and 16.5" barrel carbine. So POF has worked some Voodoo to cram everything you see into a standard length lower receiver. The extractor and firing pin are both chrome plated. ["post_mime_type"]=> Project Rogue was an exercise to turn the Revolution platform into the lightest .308 semi auto rifle on the market, and to do it without needless lightening cuts. string(4) "3120" This is due to a combination of things including the muzzle brake, how the gas system is set up, lightweight reciprocating parts and the action spring. I sent it back for them to look at it and they opened up the gas port slightly - What I noticed with with Dictator is that many of the positions had no effect. This would be a good piece to consider if you are looking for a light and easy-to-carry rifle chambered for a full-power rifle cartridge. The 1/8 twist rate is not a typo. ["comment_status"]=> Its better now. Had a 12.7 revolution, zero issues. Fitted to the receiver extension is a lightweight MFT six-position adjustable stock. int(0) Accuracy and Lightweight in one Package the POF Rogue Prescott POF took the Rogue platform to the next level in Prescott in 6.5 Creedmoor. Build it once. I will need to figure out the gas system once I have the can. ["post_modified"]=> Use the weight savings as an opportunity to add one. While a rifle may start off at eight pounds, it can easily pork out to 10+ pounds after bolting on an optic mount, variable power scope, attaching a sling and locking a loaded 20-round magazine into place. i also noticed that the rail is shorter.mine came with a 15 incher. ["post_date_gmt"]=> M-LOK compatibility on 3 sides. It now groups 1.5-3" with 147gr crap and 3/4" with factory FGGM 168's. . ["post_excerpt"]=> string(0) "" The founder of POF-USA wasnt a huge fan of intermediate cartridges like the 6.5mm Grendel and 6.8x43mm Rem SPC. Ordered a POF Rogue pistol in March, got it in August - took it to AR15 Barrels to install the dictator adjustable gas block, he also removed picatinny off the top, bottom front and cut the hand guard flush. Barrel: 16 inches Overall Length: 37 inches Overall Weight: 6.5 pounds (empty) Stocks: BCM Sights: None Action: Direct Impingement Finish: Hard anodized Capacity: 20+1 MSRP: $1,429 ["guid"]=> Take-up and overtravel were both nil, and the break was about as crisp as we could ask for. No, it shares the drawback of all 7.62x51mm NATO rifles, the ammunition is heavy, recoil is heavier than smaller intermediate cartridges and the mags are bulky compared to 5.56mm mags. } What are your thoughts on the revolution compared to the i have a rogue pistol shoots great, 700 plus rounds, mostly suppressed, no issues. Years in Business: 21. ["post_modified_gmt"]=> Here is a rifle you could use for hunting, personal protection and recreational shooting. string(15) "phoenix-9mm-sbr" Although several of our evaluators were initially concerned that POFs weight-reduction efforts might have pushed the carbine into too much of a good thing territory given its authoritative chambering, all the shooters had changed their minds by the end of the session. Our Keylock Bolt Carrier Group is comprised of a Nitride heat treated carrier and stainless-steel gas key. string(19) "2022-12-28 14:19:20" This removes a tremendous amount of work that would otherwise be left up to the extractor. ["post_parent"]=> For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Starting at the muzzle youll find an effective single-baffle Micro B muzzle brake which reduces felt recoil. This is nicely contoured and has a non-slip rubber pad. I'm 56 and I've owned 100s of guns through my life, however I've never owned an AR. int(0) consists of two pieces. wonder-pistolobject(WP_Post)#7944 (24) { If you DO absolutely need a large frame 308 I would go with an Aero M5 build (and anticipate some hiccups) or an ADM. Having several Aero builds, Colt, Geissele, and ADM I can honestly state that the ADM is worth every penny especially on non-uniform large frame AR10 systems. string(6) "closed" To ensure a tight fit, the lower also sports a Nylon receiver tension screw. Big thumbs up. (1) Patriot Ordnance Factory Minuteman Direct Impingement 16.5" Black 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi $ It would be easy to carry over hill and dale, fast handling and quick to the shoulder while delivering a traditional .30 caliber punch. ["comment_status"]=> ["comment_status"]=> I have now put plenty of rounds through the Rogue with ZERO issues. I'm considering getting a Revolution; I like the idea of ambi controls and the adjustable gas block for suppressor use. ["post_date_gmt"]=> Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. It may not display this or other websites correctly. renegade-plus-sbrobject(WP_Post)#7947 (24) { ["post_name"]=> string(7) "firearm" Wish i would have got the Sig version. The POF-USA quick disconnect sling swivel receiver extension plate features a single anti-rotational QD sling swivel attachment that keeps the operator focused on the target and not on untangling themselves from their sling. The most common complaints I hear voiced against AR-10-type rifles is, they are too big and too heavy. The receiver sets are large, the bolt carrier is huge and heavy and once you add a sling, loaded magazine and an optical sight the end result is a rifle physically larger and heavier than most desire for carrying in the field, especially while hunting. string(0) "" ["post_parent"]=> ["post_content"]=> It is very light weight which is why I bought it. The result is a sub 6 pound .308 rifle packed with proprietary and patented innovations. And to the companys credit, each new revision of the Revolution has both weighed and cost substantially less than its forebear, while retaining most of the innovations that separate POFs products from run-of-the-mill AR-pattern rifles. ["ID"]=> POF Rogue .308 experiences? ["post_name"]=> 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. My question though, when I first heard of the Revolution a few years back was, Is it really an AR-15? So, I asked Frank DeSomma about it. Put a quick 60 rounds through her, mixed Prvi ball and Federal 150 gr. string(13) "Wonder Pistol" Its size and weight put it into a league of its own. POF REVOLUTION DI SPECIFICATIONS Type: Direct impingement, semiautomatic Caliber: 7.62 NATO Capacity: 10, 20 rds. So the consensus is that this thing should be great with 168 and 175 SMKs? It's better now. The rifle is eminently fun to shoot and I chewed through 20-round magazines without issue. Springfield Armory Hellcat Pro CCW Pistol Review. string(1) "0" ["comment_status"]=> All Rights Reserved. Anyone own or shot the POF Rogue in 308, especially the pistol version in 12.5" barrel? And, that's not ALL, Monty. You must log in or register to reply here. The POF Rouge, P415 and Renegade jump to the front of the line for the new offerings. string(0) "" Online shopping from a great selection of discounted 308 Semi-Auto Rifles by POF at Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore. The Revolution intrigued me as it is an AR-15-size platform, but chambered in .308 Win. POF calls them "intermediate size" rifles, which is a fair label. string(0) "" I'm not sure if they sell it individually. ["guid"]=> ["post_status"]=> I had a ton of photos from that event. This slim design is approximately 11 inches in length and features M-LOK mounting slots on three sides. If you can afford it though, this is an interesting and hard-hitting lightweight carbine capable of performing a variety of missions. Our barrel nuts 3 length also gives the operating rod substantial guiding surface assuring constant positive contact with the bolt carrier. ["ping_status"]=> int(0) They also offer a wide variety of build kits, including various Cerakote options that are available as limited runs. string(0) "" POF-USA includes their patented roller cam pin to reduce friction. Conditions were sunny and in the 90s with a bit of wind. ["post_author"]=> Having built/upgraded 10 AR systems Ive learned the hard way. ["post_author"]=> This single-stage, non-adjustable,drop-in triggerboasts a solid 4.5-pound pull weight and is pre-assembled in Hardcoat Anodized aluminum housing (complete with rubber urethane feet) for immediate competition, hunting, and tactical applications right out of the box. He much preferred the more powerful and more common .308 Win. The most accurate load was Federals 185-grain Juggernaut which consistently put three out of five rounds into one inch and averaged two inches at 2,436 fps. ["post_name"]=> The ADM UIC-10A chambered in .308 Winchester provides a compact platform for long range precision shooting. Tossing it on my scale showed it to weigh just 2.95 ounces. string(19) "2022-12-28 22:34:32" ["post_name"]=> ["to_ping"]=> I had to send it back to POF for a new barrel because the accuracy was horrible. It was really accurate to begin with, but with the large GB hitting the inside of the rail it was getting some off the reservation fliers. ["post_mime_type"]=> I asked their CS on how to get one. I'm having second thoughts, I think I'd either step up to the revolution, but then what I've read about SA's saint victor, it appears to be a tad more accurate, for 1/2 the price My original plan was to have a lightweight semiauto hunting rifle. ["menu_order"]=> By switching from machined billet receivers to 7075 aluminum forgings, a different barrel and eliminating some premium features POF-USA was able to reduce the $2,699 base price of the Revolution to just $1,899 for the Rogue. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. string(4) "3120" As has been stated it is a well thought out rifle. My brother has a couple Sig and Springfield rifles and I would choose an Aero build over them without question. Most hunters and many shooters want a smaller and lighter option. The magazine well is noticeably flared for fast reloads. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26706/rogue-2379521.jpg, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/133585/20220525_1446378_jpg-2398131.JPG, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/133585/20220525_152209_jpg-2398133.JPG. string(7) "publish" According to a recent Federal Emergency Management Agency report, fewer people are "prepping" today compared to previous years. The result is a 7 lb pound 6.5 Creedmoor rifle . It's lighter than my 14.5" 5.56 AR. ["post_type"]=> string(6) "closed" Attached to the rifle via a mil-spec, carbine-style receiver extension is Mission First Tacticals Battlelink Minimalist Stock, which also contributes to the guns sylphlike weight. string(7) "publish" ["post_author"]=> Only approx 500 rounds through it. Now keep in mind, both the upper and lower are the same length as standard AR-15 pieces. Has anyone got experiences or advice, +/- they'd share? The trigger that comes with it is plenty decent for the task though. Buffer System for Revolution / REVOLUTION DI / Rogue. As to be expected the Winchester load provided the highest velocity with an impressive 2,911 fps. I'd personally spend a bit more on the Revolution DI over the Rogue, no experience with the Sig but I've never been a fan and it's about two pounds heavier and physically larger overall. ["comment_status"]=> The upper assembly with a free-floating monolithic handguard slides on and interfaces. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. It's the second-most accurate load I've tried so far (1st place is Hornady 168gr Amax). ["post_content_filtered"]=> They need to offer it in a 6.5 Creedmoor. ["post_content_filtered"]=> ["post_modified_gmt"]=> int(0) I had to send it back to POF for a new barrel because the accuracy was horrible. Damn. string(19) "2022-05-09 15:51:26" Would love some opinions from people who have owned or used either of these rifle, or companies. string(0) "" I snagged the rogue because I think it fits a good niche role. string(7) "firearm" The POF-USA Technical Support page has all the info you need to keep your rifle in proper working condition. All Rights Reserved. string(0) "" Carved from American A2 steel, the Trigger, Disconnect, and Hammer are all Nitride Heat-Treated to 70 Rockwell case hardness for ultimate strength and corrosion resistance. POF-USA is proud to announce the Rogue, an ultra-light carbine weighing in at under 6 pounds. string(3) "raw" ["post_parent"]=> string(6) "closed" Better still, their new Rogue is less expensive too! The Rogue carries very well due to both its short overall length and light weight. string(0) "" It does have a LOT of proprietary parts, including upper, lower, bolt carrier group, buffer tube, etc. I have been buying more factory loaded 7.62NATO with its price converging with m193. Ive been having my Revolution 308 for years. AZ: Land of wind, dirt and angry old people. Consider the source of the complaint. ["post_modified_gmt"]=> string(0) "" For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. string(6) "closed" *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. string(6) "closed" string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=128146" Its a very nice-looking piece that not only invokes pride of ownership but will impress your friends and anyone who handles it. ["pinged"]=> The .38 Smith & Wesson Special, designed in 1898, rocked the handgun realm with its ballistic performance making it a cartridge for the history books. int(0) ["filter"]=> string(19) "2022-07-27 07:47:10" Got the rogue, can't wait to get rid of it. int(0) int(0) You are using an out of date browser. string(1) "0" These weights are almost a full pound lighter than the class-leading Revolution DI. 23011 North 16th Lane, Phoenix, AZ 85027-1331. Its numerous innovations and well-executed. string(19) "2022-12-28 22:24:32" Well I talked my self out of the Revolution and am going to get the Rogue instead, $1700 vrs $2450. While the Revolution features an adjustable gas block, the Rogue has a traditional low-profile design that is not adjustable. string(19) "2023-01-02 13:00:02" These have the fluted chambers, right? David Fortier gets a look at Roundtable with Nathan Robinson. ["post_modified_gmt"]=> string(0) "" Some nights when we come across tons of hogs I can shoot 200 rounds per night easily. ["post_title"]=> string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=128148" Back in 2012 I bought 2 POF rifles. I got myself a 16" POF Rogue just before the panic, and topped it with a MRAD Vortex Razor LHT 3-15x42, then added a Dictator. Another change that allowed the company to drop both cost and weight on the mid-length, direct-impingement Rogue is the use of a non-adjustable gas block, as opposed to the Revolution DIs nine-position Dictator gas block (the sample shown here has a Dictator, stock Rogues do not). Such a combination would make for a light and handy, yet hard-hitting hunting or tactical rifle. string(9) "Rogue SBR" ["post_modified"]=> *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. int(0) I'm now suppressed and the way to go with any AR is a flow-through design. I love seeing the platforms continue to evolve. At the range, the Rogue proved itself to be 100 percent reliable, exhibiting zero malfunctions of any type through approximately 250 rounds. 7.62x51mm nato semi auto 20 rounds 16.5 barrel. I frequently shoot a 4lb 12oz Kimber Adirondack in 308 and its a pussycat with a brake or suppressor. string(1) "1" So, he burned the midnight oil, overcame every roadblock, problem and hurdle to bring what became the Revolution to market. Aero M5E1. and such a rifle would have to weigh much more than 5.9 pounds, right? The firing pin is Mil-Spec other than its increased length. string(0) "" string(6) "closed" Threaded into the rear of the lower receiver is an aluminum anti-tilt receiver extension. So sheer accuracy was not my main goal. ["post_date_gmt"]=> I really like the combo of light weight and a .308 round for a patrol rifle, but havent seen very many reviews.