the faith. In principle anyway. If you ever want to chat, let me know and will be glad to listen. But He did not say you all of you are apostate and lost and going to Hell. I agree with you but those who are twisting the word of God would say that that's their interpretation of it. Have MERCY on those who waver; SAVE others by snatching them from the FIRE; have MERCY on others, but with fear, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.". The left hates the Churchs love of the poor, which seeks to alleviate the sufferings of the unfortunate instead of inciting them to revolt against those who have more. Ive been humbled, but this thing has given me a new zeal not just to pursue Truth, but to pray for wisdom and discernment specifically, discernment of the spirits. not nearly as smart or skilled or spiritual or useful as I thought I was, that I would never find another church like Here, it seemed like I was changing, but not for the better. But one legacy of the movement is confusion and mushy thinking. Discipleship is the keystone that is missing in our churches. Instead of getting closer to God, I found myself May the Lord continue to lead and guide you by His Word. But Its like the pot calling the kettle black. I would describe the modern church as apostate and I have left the harlot church system in my rear view. Cry out to Jesus and repent for He is a God of restoration and will be a present help in your time of need. I have heard false prophecies through the years. Take the fish and spit out the bones. Making my way up a second time and the same thing happened again! WebI am an ex-member who walked away about 3 years ago, after four years of membership in the United Pentecostal Church International (UPCI). I began seeing some very strange disturbing manifestations during our services where people were flopping all over each other, going into trances, acting like they were giving birth, making animal noises, and on occasion even rolling out of their clothes. I also saw a huge chAnge over twenty years or so and left about six years ago. If I could only stick with it long enough, I believed that all those questions It took more than a year for me to work myself into a position where I had the courage to even think Share our lives with eachother. That should give you a clear view of the people I was running with. I begrudgingly turned round. Paul wrote to all the believers in one town. Sometimes HE is hidden even within the church, but a heart that truly desires TRUTH and real intimacy with the Spirit will find it just as you have because God has said so! And Im very familiar with Pentecostal history and its roots. xx. It was a extremely hard decision for me, but i felt it was the right thing to do. Only by Gods grace, strength and help have I made it thus far. Jesus is pulling a lot of out. I am finding this site among others that are confirming some concerns. I wasn't bold enough in my witness. Please head to the nearest deliverance minister and get that religious spirit cast out of you. leadership believed that they were able to receive very specific verbal direction (called "prophetic words" or "words God sent a strong delusion upon them so that they should believe the lie because they loved not the truth. It is important never to throw out the baby with the bathwater. How God was going to send a great revival which didnt make sense to me because the bible taught of a great apostasy the polar opposite. Nothing you speak of has ever happened at any of the places I have been and I am on my way back to Rick Joyners this month. There is too much emphasis on business pragmatics, with marketing, with church growth movements, with self-help emphasis in churches today. The highs were tremendous, but the lows were horrible. Because you said I would describe the modern church as apostate and I have left the harlot church system in my rear view. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: If you read the 7 Letters to the 7 Churches you see where Christ rebuked 5 of the 7. That's why Jesus said. Greet believers at church. Web0 views, 0 likes, 0 loves, 0 comments, 0 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Kingdom Life Christian Church - Bradenton Florida: Thank You for Joining Us! I currently attend these services and have never seen such a loving group of people that are determined to adhere to bible principles and demonstrate true brotherly love as God instructs. I hope you find it helpful and the link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9ELq9TD08. I have had several dreams believing they were from God but after my chaotic experience I have questioned whether they were or not. They taught we were the special generation that would usher in the return of Christ. I attributed my lack of faith But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good. There were Just the one that suits will do me. Maybe.I can only pray that God keeps me until I can get everything right. Its not an apostasy in toto. Thank you for that question. For many years I have been concerned about the hype and display of worship which focuses on us and what we get as Christians, instead of on the Lord from whom all blessings originate; focuses on the great music regardless of the accuracy of the lyrics; focuses on the loud, concert-like atmosphere and light show that leaves the majority of the congregation as spectators rather than shepherding them to the throne of God the almighty, loving, holy, pure and just Judge, Saviour, and Father where they can stand in wonder, kneel is repentance and awe, burst with joy, or just be enfolded in His arms. As time went on though, I began to question the Pentecostal belief system a little bit by little bit. The charismatic movement of the past quarter-century has made an impact on the church unparalleled in history. The deception is so clear nowit upsets me to see so many still trapped in this, and unwilling to see the truth! Like I said in earlier posts, in Church you will find Genuine Christians, backslidden Christians, deceived Christians, those who think they are Christianst, unbelievers and the like. I had a lot to think about and I knew I absolutely had to get back to God. Usually they are put on the back burner or ignored altogether. Ellen white is a proven false prophet and I have no desire to follow a denomination who promotes them. John etc. Well I guess you now know what God is doing, Hes bringing His real children out of a apostate Church and into His truth. My wife left me after becoming involved with this movement. While so many of these are not the essentials or the fundamentals of the faith there is a point when its time to cry foul on some of the things taking place in our assemblies. My point was that it is wrong to condemn the entire Pentecostal and Charismatic Movement just because if some bad apples in it. Let this not become a church bashing agenda here. bless you if you live, speak, and believe correctly. I went there that day with an equally unsaved friend and we both left that day Mark G,please reread my statement. As Michael has stated on this blog (and I paraphrase), the church is full of people. It is so unbalancedan sends people out on wild goose chases they may NEVER come back from.Its this idea that some magicalepic eventwill transpire in the distant future and THEN you will have arrived into your destiny moment. John MacArthur is a committed Calvinist who vehemently holds to the cessationist view. Thoughts started running through my mind if we have one father that means we are brothers and sisters. The Bible teaches that only the 12 disciples received first the Holy Spirit. Jesus said that He would send the Holy Spirit and He would bring us into all truth and bring things to remembrance of what Christ has said in His Word (Jn 14:26). The teaching was something that appealed to me and I wanted to believe it with every fiber of my They do as the bible says to feed the flock not scatter bring them in. Sadly many live like Romans 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes. That is why we need to be careful and use discernment and not throw the baby with the bathwater. O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? And Paul said that's not even the best gift. Hands raised utterly disconnected from God. I know a Reformed Pastor who claimed Jesus was coming on a certain date and Jesus never came. (That alone took months) Im still very much in the process of healing. diagnose my spiritual shortcomings. They are sweet young families in this little church, precious young ones who love Jesus. Psalm 19:14 NKJV. This is extremely important for young children. We did a bible study. Services, classes or other Thankyou to those who put Jesus first and do the job the Lord has called them to! I look forward to your next post! It is so difficult to be discerning when you are hearing 80 or 90% truth and I will not claim to be a Bible scholar. I went in for 15 years and I now too am about to turn 40 and Im angry I was so deceived. I looked up to people like Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, etc. The holidays and false beliefs, & man made traditions. I stomped off back to my seat, picked up my coat and decided enough was enough. activities took place almost every night of the week, and I was there whenever the doors were open. the seriously ill basically, anyone with a medically verified condition--they never got healed. Amen to that, Michael. (LogOut/ Generation X marks the spot was the trending evangelical phrase in those days. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The body of christ. The Harlot Church system is also helpful you can find the PDF online. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. The fog will clear eventually. this is why many have lost their way. exactly keep. If staying connected meant promising to live according to the group's And some in these two groups are generally those who condemn all Pentecostal and Charismatic groups as well as all teaching. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. So they are leaving. I didn't Seek out people who will be a support system until you can get stronger; Until their words have no influence over you. I will certainly look it up. An encounter with the living God would probably leave you with a limp. I hadnt bothered too much until it affected me. It was a Since the Garden of Eden, the Devil has been on a campaign to twist God's Word. I was still being taught that God loved me and wanted to bless me but I didn't believe it anymore. The fact that it did not line up with Gods word or his Character made me even more angry. I am Torah Observer. All my love in Christ to this Sister in Christ. Now what they don't point out is that, the tongues the disciples spoke was actually Earth languages. I did my best to leave honorably and correctly, but it didn't matter. You learn to keep your opposing views to yourself. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. Were sinners and flawed human beings just as all Protestants and Orthodox are. Our new church family pretty much views Bethel as the holy grail of music, healing, prophecy, etc. Bill Johnson and his wife are into grave soaking. And shame on them for not doing so. Somehow, it all seemed so cheap and plastic now. Knowing God was not a "personal" experience at all. I dont place much trust in dreams and visions because sometimes they are good and sometimes they are dark. No one tried to shame me into staying. Webwhy are pentecostals so mean. People saved, people healed, marriages restored etc etc. I really long for our eyes to open as believers. Enough is enough. Which is why he is forced to accept the workings of the Holy Spirit in scripture, those strange goings which opponents thought were of the devil or threatened their own religious viewpoints. The Catholic Church in effect falters when her members fall short of what they should be doing and believing. That said, does that mean God does not speak to us today? just "speaking in faith." We Christians moan about a lot of ungodly areas of our lives whether in the media, schools, business etc. He wasn't just something I talked about anymore. We can only know God properly by His Word, not feeling, emotion or some experience. Hi, Im Lazarus Chetty, from Cape Town, South Africa. Then blaming everyone else when were sick and spirituality unhealthy. He is the Word. The other thing is EVERYONE has the gift of prophecy? I never said we should not contend for the Faith nor do I refrain from exposing and rebuking error and sin when needed. of a meeting. In fact many things began to bother me in this chaotic movement. We were all conference junkies running to whatever new move of God Charisma magazine was publishing that month. - Does God still heal? What a great article. Its a mad house. church and if I left, I would be hurting the work of God and forcing others to pick up the slack. You must log in or register to reply here. They make a big deal out of tongues. Thanks. I remember being in a church service with my hands raised singing a love song to God and realizing I was so lost. Im glad that God opened your eyes too. (scripture alone) That was a hard lesson I learned this year. Hebrews 4:12. I went to In fact, things just kept getting worse there. I dare not trust the sweetest frame, but wholly lean on Jesus name. WebWhy I am no longer a Pentecostal There were no miracles, no power, no gifts, no healings, nothing but the theatrical antics and delusions of men. decided to throw myself into my faith with even more energy and abandon than before. Care for them. There was constant talk of apostles and prophets that God was raising up in these last days. Northern Ireland Going to church every sunday, praise and worship, listen to a scripture and go home again. 2. 1. It was top notch. I am a non-denominational evangelist who simply calls himself a New Testament Christian. Part of it was my unwillingness to even acknowledge that I could have been so deceived. God bless. first if I ever wanted to leave. also wondered about "prophetic words" that seemed to contradict eachother and even contradict the That extends to many of the anti-charismatic teachers as well whose exegesis is mind-boggling in its contextual dishonesty. I got shoved out of the way by burly prayer ushers who were sullen and rude. I love Torah , love Sabbath worship and only He is Glorified. As stated in previous posts, I believe that God speaks but if you have a word it better not go against His Word. They really don't speak much on any other gift. To encourage each other and pray for each other. The majority of the congregation could just "show up" and enjoy. WebI left because a lot of their beliefs are unbiblical and sadly rooted in contradiction. You are about to discover why I fell in love with this type of church & denomination and why I eventually left this type of teaching. they didn't come to pass. 10 Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. Many Christian friends who were sympathetic turned their back when I couldnt stand being alone anymore. I just cant believe this is God. Like many others, I joined because I was looking for something -- I wanted to be in a church that You should write your story. I realized that just because it was a Protestant church didnt make it scriptural The pastor was awful, preached more from Robt Schneller than scripture and when my husband and I questioned some of his so called God is leading our church this way ( as in going to yung ghi chos church in Korea to learn how to pray) cell groups, (communism) I actually have a 3-4 page testimony on my Facebook which was written by my friend on her blog (Growing4life.net) Changed Lives. False prophecy is rampant in these circles. And trust me I have had my share. That is what Thess. A born evangelist with a true shepherds heart. I pastor a church and place workers in needy countries. It is full of people who (mostly) volunteer their time. I was 21 years old when I truly came to know Christ and now I am 40 and let me tell you this stuff gets old. Oh yes, we were always ALMOST THERE, wherever there was. The bible warns 17 times in the NT against wolves/falseteachers butministers selectively pickfeel good scriptures and ignore others; you know, the ones that bring them under scrutiny or accountability .Sadlymost Christians dont know bible scripture so they believe pretty much anything the preacher says. In this movement ministers are worshiped like infallible gods above reproach. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. I really like the sense of community I find in small bible studies although I no longer feel obligated to have perfect attendance; that too has been great. Loved your post and I cannot thank you enough for posting it! Its like saying Dr. As for the breathing, these kids are desperate for recognition and fame in churches, they mimic there idols; unfortunately Bill Johnson is held in high esteem among many young people. 10. I knew I had the Holy Spirit within me because of how I live. It looked like a safe place to go. I find myself at odds with any church or denomination that places external manifestation above the Word of God. No smoke and mirrors. Its just that the leaders of Vineyard Anaheim believe that God is guiding them to leave the denomination their church helped start. a letter to my cheer team from coach,

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