(18)When touching upon the footprints left in the snow, there are reports of prints mentioned by the first rescuers arriving to the abandoned tent. (11)One thing that I want to mention in thiscircumstance, regards the angle of the pitched Dyatlov tent. Such winds are sometimes also called fall winds; the spelling catabatic winds is also used. Only one of them survived since he was in constant movement and wasfortunate to be saved by two persons later on - although losing all his extremities. The katabatic winds are stronger in the Ross Sea sector of Antarctica (Parish & Cassano, 2003) and even though they may play a role in modulating the climatological mean ASL, it is difficult to disentangle the effects of katabatic winds from the effects of flow separation by Antarctic topography in a climate model. Ill do my best - have lenience. That will come. Richard Holmgren, February 22,2019 Another type of warm wind occurs on the leeward side of the mountain ranges. Gazeta.ru (Russia) - Dyatlov Pass: Swedes horrified by the skiers' tragedy - presenting new details about the case of the Dyatlov group's death., (15 February 2019) Dagens Nyheter - Svensk expedition i Djatlovs fotspr exakt 60 r efter desnatten (10 oktober 2019). This with dignity. They write new content and verify and edit content received from contributors. katabatic wind, also called downslope wind, or gravity wind, wind that blows down a slope because of gravity. It occurs at night, when the highlands radiate heat and are cooled. Gnter Wolf, a German physicist have provided our hypothesis with much valuable information and calculations based on the pass. Itcan be seen until January 28, 2022 (narrator's voice in Swedish only). En produktion av Pannrummet och Sveriges Television (premir p SVT-Play den 28januari samt i SVT2 den 4 februari kl. Perhaps the position of Dubinini froze her in a position of entering the shelter or that she simply slipped away withthe underlying stream during spring from a previous position near Thibeaux-Brignolle. Dyatlov Pass on Vox. M.Becker interviewsG. Wolf(in English). Continental orography also constrains the Certain zippers also malfunctioned and the soft but strong G-1000 cloth in our jackets and trousers (the classic Swedish brand of Fjllrven) simply turned into crispbread. Read the last one over all because speaks very strongly on this case-problem . He was in constant movement and ventured elsewhere, while the rest froze to death. The presentation is far from a scientific one as you can see and I share this with many other theories. What is important to realize regarding falling winds, is that theyappear quickly as opposed to a storm. A horrible experience indeed. External links for the Swedish speaking audience: Vimmerby Tidning De reser till mystiska passet (12 januari 2019) kl. Katabatic winds are often gentle, but I did They were likewise eager to experience parts of the Auspiya route and camping at the specific places of the Dyatlov group, such as the slope of Kholat Syakhl. Actually there was no elaborate plan, except for keeping the woods in mind and to have all gear reachable beside and inside each sleeping bag. See Vox Media's presentation ofthe two different and recentweather/orographic related scenarios- based on the theories byJohanGaume, Alexander Puzrinand Richard Holmgren. See also our new 2021 documentary - The Dyatlov Pass Mystery -on the Swedish Television (SVT-Play). Again, akatabatic wind is therefore suggested as the only cause to the abandoning of the campsite in a rush. It isnt easy to let them go. Thank you so much Richard. Thisregardless of a "snow slab" or not. Nevertheless, this is not to say that the story of the Dyatlov Pass is lacking thrill and mystery. A katabatic wind (named from Ancient Greek (katbasis) 'descent') is a drainage wind, a wind that carries high-density air from a higher elevation down a slope under the force of gravity. The wind was blowing from the valleys below under a blue sky. As in chess , the threat is stronger than the execution ! Thisis indeed a well researched andeye-catchingpresentation, although Ibelieve that the adoption of a "snow slab", whether it occurred or not,is not central to the course of events - that is, fleeing downto the forest and not being able to return. The presence of katabatic winds is dependent on radiative cooling of the ice slopes. IMO the traces and indications of the latter are stronger than the dating of the paper trail - which at least in one case have a natural explanation. ARCDOC, Archaeological Documentation. The Dyatlov Pass Incident -Return to Dead Mountain (Part 3), (2 June 2019). For example we haveinformation fromVladimir Askinadzis, Igor Dyatlov's group. 9) Andreas Liljegren taking a well deserved break from tough skiing through the forest in the Auspiya valley. SR P3/P4 Vaken med Robert Frank Andreas och Richard vernattade i mystiska Djatlovpasset (intervju med Andreas & Richard efter Dyatlovexpeditionen 2019)10 februari 2019, kl. ther than the issueof drinking water, the cold temperatures affected the food and the snacks in the backpacks. Katabatic winds can rush down elevated slopes at hurricane speeds, but most are not that intense and many are 10 knots (18km/h) or less. I agree with your findings.may God bless them lost souls. I repeat my supposition did on 3-26-2019 . Certain zippers also malfunctioned and the soft but strong G-1000 cloth in our jackets and trousers (the classic Swedish brand of Fjllrven) simply turned into crispbread. Any body of water near high mountains may be subject to such winds. I see them succumbing to something very rapidly down in the woods off the pass. Hi Rufus! 15). The young men at the fire must have struggled hard to get a fire going, which wasalso evident from their unsuccessful attempts. This area in France corresponds almost exactly to the orography of the "Kholat", where lee waves are regularly seen and are the basis for the weather on 1/2 February 1959. Aware of the dangers of conceivable strongwinds, we pitched the tent with the gablefacing the gradient (photo no. Thank you. Nevertheless, this is not to say that the story of the Dyatlov Pass is lacking thrill and mystery. This is huge when you consider that the Dyatlov Pass is one of the greatest mysteries of all time! stgta Correspondenten Tillbaka efter natten i mystiska passet (4 februari 2019) In all - this plan was probably insufficient but we hoped that any katabatic scenario or similar explosive event was kind enough not to repeat itself this particular night. There are also reports that the flashlight was still in a working condition when lit. 17.00. Biting her numb knuckles, Kolmogorova along with her two friends, finally fell asleep from one of naturesmany sinisteroccurrences- thesomewhat rare but otherwisewell documented, katabaticwind. Photo: Richard Holmgren. The pathologist never wrote ofblood in her stomach, butsimply mentioned the presence ofa red substance. ( YouTube linkhere). This particular day the windacceleratedand the physical situation of the group gradually affected their condition. Non davvero facile fare tutto che hanno fatto nella foresta prima che il freddo diventasse travolgente. The East Antarctic wind perturbation produces both local and remote impacts along the Antarctic continental margin. However, no matter the experience, people still die when performing extreme ventures like climbing and hiking. Vetenskapsradion Historia - (direktrapport frn Dyatlovpasset), 5 februari 2019. The two men must have fought the worst since the making of a bonfire (as a backup to the bivouac solution) would have been a tremendous challenge in the cold strong wind. Not all downslope winds are katabatic. The tent was also pitched with the gable against the gradient and the wind. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWQSeD3L4X0z3wiDwOSYBhg/videos, Thanks Ladislav, yes there are many possible explanations out there. This could in fact explain why the tent was located with a protective snow cover and a flashlight atop - likely used as a beacon for relocating the position. Generally we dont - even though we are well aware of the many accidents that occur. The rescuers arriving to the scene, described the place as the worst they had ever encountered. As someone said. Hey, Richard. What was your contingency plan in the case of a katabatic wind? The definition of akatabatic wind is sometimes also referred to as afall wind. Vimmerby Tidning De reser till mystiska passet (12 januari 2019). The only problem in this case involvedthe practice of packing down the daily clothing into the sleeping bags during the nightsin order to have warm clothes in the morning. Thank you so much for this input. I admire your ambition and dedication, you are so incredibly awesome! Extremely high winds would furthermore make it hard to stand upright. Yes, the group likely had a hard time finding their clothes due to the chaos in the dark. kl. Theres nothing in it but its wonderfully comfortable and deflation causes an uncomfortable jolt. In experiencing the same preconditions, we hoped to get a sober idea of what the group went throughbefore their last night. you are serene . SR P4 stergtland med Titti Elm Djatlovpasset (intervju med Richard Holmgren med anledning av dokumentren "Mysteriet vid Djatlovpasset") 28januari 2021, kl. However after walking from the tent, they likely started this procedure immediately. The Even though the Dyatlov accident could be considered somewhatrecent for an archaeological undertaking - notthe least in the absence offield artefacts- thehistorical event could perhaps beunderstood through indirectartefacts and other circumstantial evidence such as being part of legend making. 17) A scattered search team seen below clear patterns of heavily wind swept snow in the direction of the abandoned tent. ), we can assume that they were somewhat late in pitching their tent perhaps due to a rather exhausting climb and late morning departure, but still felt in control regardless oftheweather. April 2019. In archaeology, I have dealtwith several excavations where the understanding of a certain mythwasinescapable. I think that all this could have been performed within around 90 minutes and with constant movements it is survivable. The Anaris groups warming equipment stayed in their backpacks which were not reachable due to their numbhands. As the dominant input term, precipitation is a key com-ponent A storm would give you time to dress and secure or dismantle a tent properly. According to the groups dressing sequences and the use of Doroshenkos and Krivonischenkos clothing, we must assume that they died first. I really like your theory and I'm leaning towards accepting it as the correct one. Thank you so much for your investigative journalism. Other regions may have a similar but lesser effect, leading to "blue ice" areas where the snow is removed and the surface ice sublimates, but is replenished by glacier flow from upstream. Its like driving a car on icy roads, you cant just keep thinking of covering all possible causes and outcomes. Igor Dyatlov would have been well acquainted with this, since he spent time in the area the previous year. A gravity wind is fiercer along the slope. hus, my theory to the groups death is based on the sudden event of a. ne thing that I want to mention in thiscircumstance, regards the angle of the pitched Dyatlov tent. I felt this was lacking and at the time of writing the theory I felt this was a new approach. For me the mystery was more related to their stamina and the impact of weather - how bad could it be? I sent to the site MOENJO ( French site ) what I consider to be the answer . Only one of them survived since he was in constant movement and wasfortunate to be saved by two persons later on - although losing all his extremities. These rescuers belonged to the Slobtsov group. Photo: Dyatlov Foundation. At least we need a well-deserved break before the next batch of theories. An interesting note in the Dyatlov group diary, made a short period of time before the accident, described a relatively warm wind associated to a jet-engine. Yes, this would be a problem indeed, but we must be careful here. Dear Martin. As Swedes we are not completely unexperienced with cold weather, but the brutal temperatures around the pass could be really challenging. The two men must have fought the worst since the making of a bonfire (as a backup to the bivouac solution) would have been a tremendous challenge in the cold strong wind. As well acknowledged, the combination of extremely cold environments and sweaty clothes, can be devastating in keeping the body warm and fit. Instead -these individuals werethe last to die. yths and legends have interested me since childhood - not least how these can betransformed over a longer period oftime. hus, my hypothesis of the subsequent events is that the rest of the team, Slobodin, Dytlov and Kolmogorova never settled in the nearby bivouac for long that is,in thebivouac that was retrieved empty in May andstillprepared with branches of fir (photo no. If the lower elevations are comparatively much warmer - the stronger the wind. 06.45. This site is very informative and I would and will recommend it to any of my colleagues wishing to also study this magnificent case. This wind theory of yours cannot be correct, as it does not account for all of the injuries, of a severe nature, to the skiiers. In the podcast it is incorrectlystatedthat the first three to die were Slobodin, Dyatlov and Kolmogorova. However, the sacks and bags were never used since they failed to open any of their backpacks alongside an overall chaotic situation. An illustratived example of thesurprise effect of a katabatic wind, can for example be seen in aclip from Kluane National Park in Canada. Thiscould be anythingfrom her last meal to any other substance finding its way down her throat whenpositionedwith her face against running water for many days. Photo: Dyatlov Foundation, hen touching upon the footprints left in the snow, there are reports of prints mentioned by the first rescuers arriving to the abandoned tent. In a brief period of time suchtemperatures can be deadly, let alone the windthat in itselfwould make it hard to stand upright. Yours is the most rational theory I have read. Thanks for your comment Christy! The pedestal prints istheresult of afoot creating a harder surfuce - this throughthecompressing power from the body weight, where icywind later preserved a raisedimprint. Yes, God bless. Only some vodka. High- and low pressures yes, but not what it can cause due to orographic circumstances as so excellently explained by Gnter Wolf on this page. The weather has always been my presumption and especially after experiencing the freezing winds on Kholat. Hypothermia-related deaths are still among the most difficult cases for postmortem diagnosis in forensic medicine. Witha body temperature of around 30 degrees Celsius, most becomeunconscious. Good to hear that it makes sense. In the not too distant future your good judgement and fairplay will be emphasized . Such presentation will be presented in connection to my page soon and based on a meticulous study by a person familiar to such events and the local geography. Such scenario with subsequent outcomes, was presented by the Swedish-Russian Dyatlov Expedition of January/February 2019, as the causes to the incident in 1959 (see above). In archaeology, I have dealtwith several excavations where the understanding of a certain mythwasinescapable. Only one of them survived - this after being found far away from a temporary and insufficient snow shelter made by the core group. Because whatever happened that fearful night over 60 years ago,it is likewise not immune to subsequent storytelling and our timeless need for legends and myths. Complimenti. The others eventually managed to getthe two bivouacs ready for use. My opinion, in the meantime, favors meteorological reasons behind the groups death. When the air is set in motion and begins to run down along a gradient, very strongwind speeds can occur. Since cooled air has a higher density than the surrounding atmosphere, the katabatic wind can Your position of strenght from now on will make you sleep well while they have a nightmare . 8) The snow covered mountains of Anaris in Sweden. Hi Alain - sorry Im not sure I follow :). Their tent and equipment, if still in place, would be within grasp as long as they stayed alive elsewhere. The character of the wind at Mawson there- According to Vladimir Askinadzi, present at the scene,Zolotaryov reportedly even had a pen and a paper in his hands which gives the impression of being rather in control. Probably it concerned outer shells and various other life supporting items. Grazie! (3)When the Anaris-group started the trip, they encountered an outside temperature of around minus 15 degrees Celsius (5 degrees Fahrenheit) with a wind speed of around 6 m/s. Far from it. In this case the layingtent could perhaps have steered away most of the wind -. Comment disappeared..U-shaped markings I think from black, frostbitten fingers clutching half frozen skin in area of pain as on Georgy's leg. 15) The Dyatlov group's tent was found the 26th of February partly covered by snow. This, unless itaccidentlyteared itself apartby any item pushed against the canvas to keep it stretched. True, they were a really strong group. In their recent episode Return to Dead Mountain (The Dyatlov Pass Incident - Part 3), their video and Podcast depictsour expedition and new theory of 2019. A Swedish wind record for such wind is for example 81 m/s which was documented in 1992 at the Tarfala research station. Colonel G. Ortyukov that checked the diary, said that it was empty and thus it was not files as evidence. I only close jokingly comments or too much of the same thing from the same angle - this so that ideas can be equally represented. It is likely somewhere in this upper area tha the photo above was taken (11). Depending on the exact location of these prints, it could perhapsrevealthe last actions of the groupbefore leaving the tent -how ahurriedteamspread out alongside the tent in order to effectively bury the wind battered canvas with snow? [2] A katabatic wind is a downslope flow driven by gravity and pressure gradient forces on a cold sloping surface, which is typically cooled by a negative radiation balance. If only they had dug 15 meters further away they would have found a sufficient snow depth of about five meters. 10) The chilling temperatures on the 1st of February 2019, between the Dyatlov pass and Kholat Syakhl. Thanks! This makes them fall into the river row by row. I mean for a person in his or her best shape, such a climb was probable doable but as you say, considering all the survival work that was performed afore probable made the last ascent impossible. Such approaches arenot that common infieldarchaeology but excavations in the Middle East sometimesopen such doors. fter arriving to the forest and eventually into the area of the large Siberian cedartree, the winds would have still been very strong, but the best possible shelter for waiting out the ordeal away from the slope. The other bivouac,retrieved on May 5th, was less evidentbut contained the four lastly recovered bodies. It is necessary but with all the contradictions, such a paper would rather be an investigation of the investigation. Yes, the tent would have been better secured with the group inside, but the cooling effect under a gravity wind would eventually have killed them. But if we assume that the bivouac with the four lastly found of the group, had not collapsed (which I propose), then perhaps they would have made it during the night in order to retrieve their buried equipment in a less forceful weather. Thanks for your insightful comment. This was however not mentioned in the autopsy report. . Well,the one who reads theconcluding theory below,ofwhat I reallythink killed the group, he or she will understand that we really had a big reason to be frightened. Bedtime Stories (YouTube Channel). I still think if I was in the Dyatlov group I wouldn't leave the tent under any circumstances without my shoes and coat. 5) The Dyatlov groups tent with its specially constructed stove crafted by Igor Dyatlov himself. In the next minute or even seconds, the wind got so strong that any tent would have blown away or into pieces - this when the gravity windtipped over Kholat's northwestern edgefrom the adjacent western valley. The temperature of the air depends on the temperature in the source region and the amount of descent. Nothing points to this from the time period. SR P4 Extra (Stockholm) med Titti Schultz - (intervju med Andreas & Richard om Dyatlovexpeditionen 2019 & 1959), 19 februari, ca. Without cooking, almost nothing could be eaten during the trip - such as the brought about dried fruits, which were frozen into lumps of ice. I'm personally forever grateful, as my life has been consumed for years trying to make the pieces of this puzzle fit. Dyatlov Pass and the Anaris mountains in Sweden. First of all i am glad i found your report and expedition on this case, as my grandpa always used to tell me stories about the Dyatlov Pass Incident. It is impossible to ask for something stronger . Photo: Mats Borg, n the photos taken by the rescue team, clear traces of snow affected by strong wind can be seen pointing towards the tent from around the peak of Kholat Syakhl. Myth is like an air mattress. One question - if the wind is that strong (25m/s or more) why were the skis still upright & the stakes (?) I must repeat that this is a suggestion to what happened. The missing eyes and a tongue,should be considered a natural cause of decomposition. With unthought of details, we could then apply those to our personal theories. That might have been possible and perhaps could have saved some of them. The hardest to deal with during the trip was undoubtedly skiing through pristine snow with backpacks. When you arrive to the pass you are really exhausted. (26)Gnter Wolf is an accredited physicist from Germany. If the event would continue for a longer time or if the outside temperature is far too low, the consequence would be deadly without suitable shelters or helping hands. I would say that this was the most important purpose of the stove. Best Sarah! This suggests, therefore, that the frequency distribution of the wind speeds during the lull periods in the summer months possesses a distinct character of its own, with an average wind-speed of approximately 5 knots (9.25 km/hr). As aflight instructor since 1986, hehas been intensively involved in meteorology since the start. We believed that this would ease the weight from the skis and thus prevent us from sinking too deep into the snow - which fortunatelyalso becamethe case. u stated that igor dyatlov was found hanging onto a brancn? Webwhat are the non legislative powers of congress. The longcanvas of the Dyatlov tent would have started to flutter in an exceptionally violent and self-destructing way, much sothat the only way to save it would be to cut it open from the inside in order to rushoutside for measures of saving it. In their recent episode Return to Dead Mountain (The Dyatlov Pass Incident - Part 3), their video and Podcast depictsour expedition and new theory of 2019. Usually everything should be accounted for in any pathologyreport, but the description of her body shows that no difference to the type of wounds was made when analyzed. I wish I could approach the case scientifically like any archaeological study. In line with their outdoor experiences I'm sure they knew that such winds wereunfortunate and rare, buthopefullywouldn'tlast all night. I too feel that this case is probably settled, although I will probably also always wonder a little bit about the parachute mines Hi Amanda, yes parachute mines would be a thing. The Swedish group were probably not nearly as fit as theRussian team of nine andwedont know if some in the Dyatlovgroup got sweaty. This -even if the Mansi presence intersected with bothour challengeand the Dyatlov group - and still plays an inseparable part of the region and the story itself. As in the case of Zolotaryov, these actions does not rhyme with deadly wounds caused early duringthe ongoing events. This feeling of constant threat of weather changes and how vulnerable you are in this area, really expanded on this theory.

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