She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. Master give me over to de National Freedmen's bureau and I was bound out to a Cherokee woman name Lizzie McGee. North Carolina had the highest population of Vann families in 1840. Young Master never whip his slaves, but if they don't mind good he sell them off sometimes. 3. My mother Betsy Vann, worked in the big house for the missus. I'm gonna give Lucy this black mare. He is indeed of warm temper, but who can gain his love, which is no hard task, has gained all, and we have no doubt that with reasonable management, he may be made a very useful man.". When de War come old Master seen he was going into trouble and he sold off most of de slaves. Unfortunately, this building was later destroyed during the American Civil War. Poor old master and mistress only lived a few years after de War. It look lots of clothes for all them slaves. We had bonnets that had long silk tassels for ties. My mother, grandmother, aunt Maria and cousin Clara, all worked in the big house. Oh they was good. Lots of bad things have come to me, but the good Father, high up, He take care of me. My uncle used to baptize 'em. If someone they didn't want to have it try to dig it up, money sink down, down deep in the ground where they couldn't get it. His grandfather was Clement Vann, a Scottish trader who moved from Charleston, South Carolina, to the Cherokee lands in northwest Georgia and married Wa-wli, a Cherokee Indian. Yes, my dear Lord yes. When father was young he would go hunting the fox with his master, and fishing in the streams for the big fish. Marster Jim and Missus Jennie wouldn't let his house slaves go with no common dress out. Mammy was the house girl and she weaved the cloth and my Aunt Tilda dyed the cloth with indigo, leaving her hands blue looking most of the time. My mother saw it but the colored chillun' couldn't. The commissary was full of everyting good to eat. When we git to Fort Gibson they was a lot of negroes there, and they had a camp meeting and I was baptized. It had no windows, but it had a wood floor that was kept clean with plenty of brushings, and a fireplace where mammy'd cook the turnip greens and peas and corn--I still likes the cornbread with fingerprints baked on it like in the old days when it was cooked on a skillet over the hot wood ashes. He sure stood good with de Cherokee neighbors we had, and dey all liked him. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. Just 'bout two weeks before the coming of Christmas Day in 1853, I was born on a plantation somewheres eight miles east of Bellview, Rusk County, Texas. Old Mistress had inherited some property from her pappy and dey had de slave money and when dey turned everything into good money after de War dat stuff only come to about six thousand dollars in good money, she told me. Pappy was the shoe-maker and he used wooden pegs of maple to fashion the shoes. Chief Joseph David VANN passed awayon 1844in in boat race on Ohio River, Indiana. My names' Lucinda Vann, I've been married twice but that don't make no difference. Web. Marster Jim and Missus Jennie wouoldn't let his house slaves to with no common dress out. James Vann had several other wives and children. Everybody had plenty to eat and plenty to throw away. They wasnt very big either, but one day two Cherokees rode up and talked a long time, then young Master came to the cabin and said they were sold because mammy couldnt make them mind him. He went to the war for three years wid the Union soldiers. At night dem trundles was jest all over the floor, and in de morning we shoved em back under de big beds to git dem outn' de way. We told him bout de Pins coming for him and he just laughed. Ruth Thompson *. He sold one of my brothers, and one sister because they kept running off. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. Everybody pretty near to crazy when they bring that arm home. James Vann was born in 1766 (or 1768), near Spring Place, Georgia, the son of a white trader, Joseph Vann, and a Cherokee mother named War-li. Dey only had two families of slaves wid about twenty in all, and dey only worked about fifty acres, so we sure did work every foot of it good. The most terrible thing that ever happen was when the Lucy Walker busted and Joe got blew up. Everybody was happy. When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. Pappa named Charley Nave; mamma's name was Mary Vann before she marry and her papa was Talaka Vann, one of Joe Vann's slave down around Webber's Falls. They make pens out in the shallow water with poles every little ways from the river banks. Everybody laugh and was happy. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. I'se born across the river in the plantation of old Jim Vann in Webbers Falls. Nearly a century later (in 1932), Joseph Vann's grandson, R. P. Vann, told author Grant Foreman that Joseph Vann had built a house about a mile south of Webbers Falls (Oklahoma) "a handsome homebuilt just like the old Joe Vann home in Georgia." F Keziah Vann Family Tree Born in 1763 - Yancey Co., NC. Uncle Joe tell us all to lay low and work hard and nobody'd bother us and he would look after us. We had meat, bread, rice, potatoes and plenty of fish and chicken. Chief married Helizikinopo Ounaconoa cornstalk (born Moytoy). De furniture is all gone, and some said de soldiers burned it up for firewood. He located at Webbers Falls on the Arkansas River and operated a line of steamboats on the Arkansas, Mississippi, and Ohio Rivers. Seneca Chism was my father. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. Dere was a sister named Patsy; she died at Wagoner, Oklahoma. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. Geni requires JavaScript! My mother was seamstress. She holler, "Easter, you go right now and make dat big buck of a boy some britches!". When the Vanns were forced from their Spring Place home in 1834, they took many slaves with them when they fled to safety in Tennessee. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I ain't had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. Old Mistress had a good cookin stove, but most Cherokees had only a big fireplace and pot hooks. Hunt, Chief for 1 day: Dec. 27, 1928; *Oliver P. Brewer, Chief for 1 day: May 26, 1931; *William W. Hasting, Chief for 1 day: Jan. 22, 1936; *Jesse B. Milam, Chief for 1 day: Apr. Biography. Mistress try to get de man to tell her who de negro belong to so she can buy him, but de man say he can't sell him and he take him on back to Texas wid a chain around his two ankles. They was Cherokee Indians. Run it to the bank!" Different friends would come and they'd show that arm. Chief Born (05 Mar 1746/47) - Chowan, North Carolina Deceased 21 February 1809 - Buffington S Tavern, Georgia, United States Parents Edward Sr Vann ca 1693-1752 Mary Barnes ca 1696-1748 Spouses and children With Margaret Scott 1783-1845 Married about 1765, Spring Place, IT., GA., to Mary Wah-Li Christiana, Princess 1750-ca 1835 with Pappy worked around the farms and fiddled for the Cherokee dances. Don't know much about him. A town was laid out on his Hamilton Country farm which was called, Vanntown. Young Master never whip his slaves, but if they dont mind good he sell them off sometimes. The second time I married a cousin, Rela Brewer. Christmas morning marster and missus come out on the porch and all the colored folks gather around. brother Edward Vann brother Nancy "Nannie" Harlan sister Keziah Southern sister John Brown stepson Clement Vann stepfather Elizabeth Betsy Vann stepmother About Jennie Thompson a Cherokee woman who never left Georgia and had only one child, a son named William Thompson. Yes Lord Yes. Sponsored by Ancestry . Its got a buckeye and a lead bullet in it. In slavery time the Cherokee Negroes do like anybody else when they is a death, jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. We didn't suffer, we had plenty to eat. Someone rattled the bones. Joseph Vann, son of Chief Joseph Vann and his wife Margaret Scott Vann, married first, Jennie Springton, born December 23, 1804, died August 4, 1863. Robert Hicks ("Who went to live with the Indians") was born 1720 in Albermarle, Sussex, Virginia. Little hog, big hog, didn't make no difference. Master's name was Joe Sheppard, and he was a Cherokee Indian. We never put on de shoes until about late November when de front begin to hit regular and split our feet up, and den when it git good and cold and de crop all gathered in anyways, they is nothing to do 'cepting hog killing and a lot of wood chopping and you don't get cold doing dem two things. They had run out of food and were starving, too weak and disillusioned to offer effective resistance. Mammy and pappy belong to W.P. The grandparents were Joseph Vann, a Scottish trader who came from the Province of South Carolina, and Cherokee Mary Christiana (Wah-Li or Wa-wli Vann). He passed away on 4 Apr 1770 in Bertie, North Carolina, United States. We went down to the river for baptizings. Some of us had money. He had apparently been attending the horse races at Louisville, KY. Vann, Joseph H., Cherokee Rose: On Rivers of Golden Tears, 1st Books Library (2001), ISBN 0-75965-139-6. Joseph William II Vann 1810-1854. At the time that the interviews were conducted, the Vanns had been gone from Georgia for more than 100 yearsconsequently none of the slaves the Vanns owned in Spring Place were still alive. Old Mistress cried jest like any of de rest of us when de boat pull out with dem on it. 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. Please join us. One of the Six Killer women was mighty good to us and we called her "mammy", that a long time after my mammy die though. The fugitive slaves killed the two bounty hunters and the slaves they had been returning joined those attempting to reach Mexico. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. Then the preacher put you under water three times. One time old Master and another man come and took some calves off and Pappy say old Master taking dem off to sell I didn't know what sell meant and I ast Pappy is he going to bring em back when he git through selling them. At least twenty-five of Vann's slaves participated in the Cherokee slave revolt of 1842. Two pounds of hog meat sold for a nickel. Hams cakes, pies, dresses, beads, everything. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Vann. I sure did love her. The only song I remember from the soldiers was" "Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree," and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. Lucinda Vann tells an unusual story of plantation life from the perspective of a house slave who was born with privileges. He say he wanted to git de family all together agin. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. My father he say, "Now chillun, don't get smart; you just be still and listen, rich folks tryin tell us something" They come and call you, say so much money buried, tell you where it is, say it's yours, you come and get it. De brothers was Sam and Eli. Yes Lord Yes. This valuable property became a prize for the white man when the laws of Georgia were extended over the Cherokee Nation. They'd sell 'em to folks at picnics and barbecues. They could have anything they wanted. Chief - Wikipedia He would sing for us, and I'd like to hear them old songs again! One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant' stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like we'd been for our feed, an clothes. He would tell em plain before hand, "Now no trouble." I never did have much of a job, jest tending de calves mostly. They never sent us anywhere with a cotton dress. He done already sold 'em to a man and it was dat man was waiting for de trader. It wasn't my Master done dat. He would start at de crack of daylight and not git home till way after dark. No nails in none of dem nor in de chairs and tables. He moved his family to this location and resided there two or three years, until he could establish himself in the west. The people were considered one of the Five Civilized Tribes of the American Southeast, because they had adopted some European-American ways, often from traders who intermarried with the Cherokee. The location of John's death was in Henderson County in 1839.) After several days of pursuit, the Indians caught up with the escaped slaves and a heated battle inflicted casualties on both sides. Although he was born after slavery had ended, Nave's remembrances of what his father had told him about slavery days include some interesting details. There was a bugler and someone called the dances. They spun the cottons and wool, weaved it and made cloth. At least twenty-five of Vann's slaves participated in the Cherokee slave revolt of 1842. They didn't go away, they stayed, but they tell us colored folks to go if we wanted to. One time we sold one hundred hogs on the foot. We went down to the river for baptizings. The Chief Vann House, built between 1804 and 1806 by the Cherokee leader James Vann, is called the "Showplace of the Cherokee Nation ." It is located at the intersection of U.S. Highway 76 and Georgia 225 in Murray County, on the outskirts of Chatsworth in northwest Georgia. When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. They'd bring whole wagon loads of hams, chickens and cake and pie. Records may include photos, original documents, family history, relatives, specific dates, locations and full names. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboast could't run. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. James (Chief of Vann's Old Town) Vannfamily tree Parents Joseph Vann 1740- Unknown But de Big House ain't hurt cepting it need a new roof. The master had a bell to ring every morning at four o'clock for the folks to turn out. We settled down a little ways above Fort Gibson. Dey would come in de night and hamstring de horses and maybe set fire to de barn, and two of em named Joab Scarrel, and Tom Starr killed my pappy one night just before the War broke out. Chief Vann House Courtesy of Atlanta History Center. but it sunk and him and old Master died. When the War come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. When we git to Fort Gibson they was a lot of Negroes there, and they had a camp meeting and I was baptised. There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. There was a big church. Deceased 20 December 1849 - Yancey Co., NC., USA, aged 86 years old Parents John Cherokee Vann 1746-1806 Betty Que-Di ca 1748- Phebe Vann 1798-1840. After a bloody fracas in 1834, Colonel W. N. Bishop established his brother, Absolom Bishop, on the premises and Joseph Vann with his family was driven out to seek shelter over the state line in Tennessee. Chief had 15 siblings: Joseph Big Vann, Margaret Weber (born Vann) and 13 other siblings. The preacher took his candidate into the water. They got on the horses behind the men and went off. He builds the large brick mansion house at Spring Place, Murray Country, Georgia, which stands today as a monument at its owner. My mother was born way back in the hills of the old Flint district of the Cherokee Nation; just about where Scraper Oklahoma is now. There wasn't nothing left. Old Master Joe had a big steam boat he called the Lucy Walker, and he run it up and down the Arkansas and the Mississippi and the Ohio river, old Mistress say. I don't remember old Mistress name. Mammy work late in the night, and I hear the loom making noises while I try to sleep in the cabin. Some had been in a big run-away and had been brung back, and wasnt so good, so he keep them on the boat all the time mostly. Source: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm [3] Lucy Walker steamboat disaster, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster [1]. A bunch of us who was part Indian and part colored, we got our bed clothes together some hams and a lot of coffee and flour and started to Mexico. He tell us for we start, what we must say and what to do. She was raised up at dat mill, but she was borned in Tennessee before dey come out to de nation. andrea riseborough partner tom burke; lancaster youth field hockey The impressive house reportedly stood on a plantation of nearly 600 acres which was tended by some 400 black slaves "Rich Joe" Vann owned. He passed away on 04 Apr 1770 in Old Ninety Six, Edgefield, South Carolina, United States. My father was a carpenter and blacksmith as well as race-horse man and he wanted to make money. When the Cherokees discovered that so many of their slaves had fled, they organized a search party to pursue them. Right after the War, de Cherokees that had been wid the South kind of pestered the freedmen some, but I was so small dey never bothered me; jest de grown ones. She turned the key to the commissary too. Joseph Vann is listed in the Cherokee census of 1835 as a resident of the Cherokee nation within the chartered limits of Hamilton County, Tennessee, his family consisting of fifteen persons. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder, I don't know, but that was before my time. All the colored folks lined up and the overseer he tell them what they must do that day. I dont know, but that was before my time. The band of escaping slaves came upon two white men who were fugitive slave hunters returning eight Negroes they had recaptured to their Choctaw master. I'se born right in my master and missus bed. Nails cost big money and Old Master's blacksmith wouldn't make none 'ceptin a few for old Master now an den so we used wooden dowels to put things together. Old Master and Mistress kept on asking me did de night riders persecute me any but dey never did. Her master was white, but he had married into de Nation and so she got a freedmen's allotment too. He didn't tell us children much about the War, except he said one time that he was in the Battle of Honey Springs in 1863 down near Elk Creek south of Fort Gibson. My brothers was name Sone and Frank. Vinita was the closeset town to where I was born; when I get older seem like they call it "the junction" on account the rails cross there, but I never ride on the trains, just stay at home. They put white cloths on the shelves and laid the good on it. The first time I married was to Clara Nevens, and I wore checked wool pants, and a blue striped cotton shirt.

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